<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095</id><updated>2012-02-16T07:33:04.860-08:00</updated><category term='U.T. Campaign'/><category term='Logan Jenkins'/><title type='text'>Soledad War Memorial</title><subtitle type='html'>This site is to advance the proposal for a substitute monument on this site........</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-1839074080173565234</id><published>2011-11-07T17:18:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T17:18:14.991-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Jewish War Veterans 9th circuit suit, decision January 2011</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/2011-1-4-JWVopinion.pdf"&gt;Link to full decision is here&lt;/a&gt;, with excerpts below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[3] The purpose of Congress’s acquisition of the Memorial&lt;br /&gt;was predominantly secular in nature. The Act sought “to preserve&lt;br /&gt;a historically significant war memorial . . . as a national&lt;br /&gt;memorial honoring veterans of the United States Armed&lt;br /&gt;Forces.” Pub. L. No. 109-272, § 2(a). &lt;strong&gt;As the district court&lt;br /&gt;noted, the statute is “not directed to the cross per se, nor does&lt;br /&gt;it require the continued presence of the cross as part of the&lt;br /&gt;memorial;&lt;/strong&gt; it simply requires the Mount Soledad site be maintained&lt;br /&gt;as a veterans’ memorial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Act’s statement of purpose likely ends the inquiry. See&lt;br /&gt;Mueller, 463 U.S. at 394-95. Nevertheless, the Act is arguably&lt;br /&gt;ambiguous to the extent that it seeks “to preserve a historically&lt;br /&gt;significant war memorial.” Pub. L. 109-272 § 2(a)&lt;br /&gt;(emphasis added). In Paulson, the case invalidating the City’s&lt;br /&gt;1998 land sale to the Association, we held that only the Cross&lt;br /&gt;on Mount Soledad bears historical significance. Paulson, 294&lt;br /&gt;F.3d at 1132 n.5 (emphasis added). Under Paulson, the Act&lt;br /&gt;could be read to aim at preserving the Cross, which would&lt;br /&gt;arguably make its purpose predominantly religious.&lt;br /&gt;[4] But even assuming that the Act is ambiguous, the legislative&lt;br /&gt;history reflects Congress’s predominantly secular purpose&lt;br /&gt;in acquiring the Memorial.&amp;nbsp; Representative Hunter, for&lt;br /&gt;example, described the Cross as “not only a religious symbol,”&lt;br /&gt;but also “a venerated landmark beloved by the people of&lt;br /&gt;San Diego for over 50 years” and “a fitting memorial to all&lt;br /&gt;persons who have served and sacrificed for our Nation as&lt;br /&gt;members of the Armed Forces.” 152 Cong. Rec. H5423 (daily&lt;br /&gt;ed. July 19, 2006); see also id. at H5422-02 (stating that&lt;br /&gt;Mount Soledad “is without question a world-class memorial,&lt;br /&gt;dedicated to all of those, regardless of race, religion[,] or&lt;br /&gt;creed, who have served our armed services”). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Representative Issa similarly stated that the Memorial “was intended to do&lt;br /&gt;what it does for the vast majority of San Diegans and people&lt;br /&gt;who come to our fair city. It honors our war veterans for the&lt;br /&gt;sacrifice they made.” Id. at H5424. According to Representative&lt;br /&gt;Issa, the acquisition was “consistent with how we as&lt;br /&gt;Americans have honored our war dead and those who have&lt;br /&gt;given in service to our country” and advanced the “freedom&lt;br /&gt;for people to observe their God as they chose fit.” &lt;br /&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Representative Bilbray argued for the Act on the grounds&lt;br /&gt;of religious tolerance and the memorial’s secular historical&lt;br /&gt;significance. He cited the presence of “many religious symbols&lt;br /&gt;on public lands” in San Diego County and argued that&lt;br /&gt;“this is not about religion; it is about the tolerance of our heritage&lt;br /&gt;and the memorials to those who have fought for our heritage&lt;br /&gt;across the board.” Id. at H5425.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[5] Finally, although Senator Sessions introduced the Senate&lt;br /&gt;bill as intended “to preserve the cross that stands at the&lt;br /&gt;center of Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial . . . that is under&lt;br /&gt;attack by the ACLU,” he underlined that the Cross was “part&lt;br /&gt;of a memorial that has secular monuments also.” 152 Cong.&lt;br /&gt;Rec. S8364 (daily ed. July 27, 2006). Taken together, the&lt;br /&gt;floor statements support the text’s demonstration of Congress’s&lt;br /&gt;predominantly secular purpose in acquiring the&lt;br /&gt;Memorial.&lt;br /&gt;Jewish War Veterans’s arguments to the contrary do not&lt;br /&gt;change our view. In particular, the evidence of the role of&lt;br /&gt;Christian advocacy organizations in the Act’s passage is not&lt;br /&gt;probative of Congress’s objective. Although such advocacy&lt;br /&gt;can form part of the context for determining an act’s purpose,&lt;br /&gt;see, e.g., Epperson, 393 U.S. at 107-09 &amp;amp; n.16, we must take&lt;br /&gt;into account the often complex, attenuated, and mediated relationship&lt;br /&gt;between advocacy and legislation. Although the&lt;br /&gt;advocacy by Christian organizations may have been a contributing&lt;br /&gt;factor to the Act’s drafting and passage, the record does&lt;br /&gt;not establish that the sectarian goals of the advocates can be&lt;br /&gt;reasonably attributed to Congress as a whole. In the end,&lt;br /&gt;“what is relevant is the legislative purpose of the statute, not&lt;br /&gt;the possibly religious motives of the legislators who enacted&lt;br /&gt;the law.” Mergens, 496 U.S. at 249 (emphases omitted).10 In&lt;br /&gt;crediting congressional purpose, we underscore, however, that&lt;br /&gt;these congressional statements reflect congressional sentiment&lt;br /&gt;and are not necessarily reflective of the factual record before&lt;br /&gt;us. We turn to the actual record to assess the primary effect&lt;br /&gt;of the Memorial.&lt;br /&gt;pp18&lt;br /&gt;---------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These prior decisions do little to establish that the&lt;br /&gt;cross is a prevalent symbol to commemorate veterans. In two&lt;br /&gt;of the four cases we found in which crosses were used as war&lt;br /&gt;memorials, the crosses in question were only designated as&lt;br /&gt;war memorials after the start of litigation. See, e.g., SCSC, 93&lt;br /&gt;F.3d at 618 (relating that Latin cross designated as a war&lt;br /&gt;memorial following rulings by the state courts that the cross&lt;br /&gt;violated the federal and state constitutions); Greater Houston&lt;br /&gt;Chapter of the ACLU v. Eckels, 589 F. Supp. 222, 225, 234-&lt;br /&gt;35 (S.D. Tex. 1984) (noting that three crosses and a Star of&lt;br /&gt;David were rededicated as a war memorial after litigation&lt;br /&gt;commenced). In a third case, the plaintiffs similarly alleged&lt;br /&gt;that the cross in question was rededicated as a memorial after&lt;br /&gt;a complaint from a Jewish naval officer that the cross violated&lt;br /&gt;the doctrine of separation of church and state, while the&lt;br /&gt;defendants claimed the cross had always been a memorial.&lt;br /&gt;Jewish War Veterans, 695 F. Supp. at 5. We could locate only&lt;br /&gt;one case in which it was undisputed that the cross in question&lt;br /&gt;was dedicated as a war memorial from the outset. Gonzales,&lt;br /&gt;4 F.3d at 1414, 1421-23 (holding unconstitutional a crucifix&lt;br /&gt;in a public park “to honor the heroic deeds of servicemen who&lt;br /&gt;gave their life in battle”). In light of the multitude of war&lt;br /&gt;memorials in the United States, however, these few examples&lt;br /&gt;do not cast doubt on our conclusion and that of the Jewish&lt;br /&gt;War Veterans’s expert, that the cross has not been a universal,&lt;br /&gt;or even a common, feature of war memorials.16&lt;br /&gt;pp29&lt;br /&gt;-----------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question, then, is whether the entirety of the Mount&lt;br /&gt;Soledad Memorial, when understood against the background&lt;br /&gt;of its particular history and setting, projects a government&amp;nbsp;endorsement of Christianity. We conclude it does. In so holding,&lt;br /&gt;we do not discount the fact that the Cross was dedicated&lt;br /&gt;as a war memorial, as well as a tribute to God’s promise of&lt;br /&gt;“everlasting life,” when it was first erected, or that, in more&lt;br /&gt;recent years, the Memorial has become a site for secular&lt;br /&gt;events honoring veterans. We do not doubt that the present&lt;br /&gt;Memorial is intended, at least in part, to honor the sacrifices&lt;br /&gt;of our nation’s soldiers. This intent, however, is insufficient&lt;br /&gt;to render the Memorial constitutional. Rather, we must&lt;br /&gt;inquire into the overall effect of the Memorial, taking into&lt;br /&gt;consideration its entire context, not simply those elements that&lt;br /&gt;suggest a secular message. See American Atheists, 616 F.3d&lt;br /&gt;at 1159 (“[A] secular purpose is merely one element of the&lt;br /&gt;larger factual and historical context that we consider in order&lt;br /&gt;to determine whether [the display] would have an impermissible&lt;br /&gt;effect on the reasonable observer.”). In conducting this&lt;br /&gt;inquiry, we learned that the Memorial has a long history of&lt;br /&gt;religious use and symbolism that is inextricably intertwined&lt;br /&gt;with its commemorative message. This history, combined&lt;br /&gt;with the history of La Jolla and the prominence of the Cross&lt;br /&gt;in the Memorial, leads us to conclude that a reasonable&lt;br /&gt;observer would perceive the Memorial as projecting a message&lt;br /&gt;of religious endorsement, not simply secular memorialization.&lt;br /&gt;pp34&lt;br /&gt;--------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By claiming to honor all service members with a symbol&lt;br /&gt;that is intrinsically connected to a particular religion, the government&lt;br /&gt;sends an implicit message “to nonadherents that they&lt;br /&gt;are outsiders, not full members of the political community,&lt;br /&gt;and an accompanying message to adherents that they are&lt;br /&gt;insiders, favored members of the political community.&lt;br /&gt;Lynch, 465 U.S. at 688 (O’Connor, J., concurring); see also&lt;br /&gt;American Atheists, 616 F.3d at 1160-61 (“[T]he fact that all&lt;br /&gt;of the fallen . . . troopers are memorialized with a Christian&lt;br /&gt;symbol conveys a message that there is some connection&lt;br /&gt;between [the state] and Christianity. . . . &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[T]he significant size of the cross would only heighten this concern.”); Eckels, 589&lt;br /&gt;F. Supp. at 235 (the primary effect of crosses and Stars of&lt;br /&gt;David used as war memorials “is to give the impression that&lt;br /&gt;only Christians and Jews are being honored by the country”).&lt;br /&gt;This message violates the Establishment Clause.25&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[23] Accordingly, after examining the entirety of the&lt;br /&gt;Mount Soledad Memorial in context—having considered its&lt;br /&gt;history, its religious and non-religious uses, its sectarian and&lt;br /&gt;secular features, the history of war memorials and the dominance&lt;br /&gt;of the Cross—we conclude that the Memorial, presently&lt;br /&gt;configured and as a whole, primarily conveys a message&lt;br /&gt;of government endorsement of religion that violates the&lt;br /&gt;Establishment Clause. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This result does not mean that the&lt;br /&gt;Memorial could not be modified to pass constitutional muster&lt;br /&gt;nor does it mean that no cross can be part of this veterans’&lt;br /&gt;memorial. We take no position on those issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We reverse the grant of summary judgment to the government&lt;br /&gt;and remand for entry of summary judgment in favor of&lt;br /&gt;the Jewish War Veterans and for further proceedings consistent&lt;br /&gt;with this opinion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-1839074080173565234?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/1839074080173565234/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2011/11/jewish-war-veterans-9th-circuit-suit.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/1839074080173565234'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/1839074080173565234'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2011/11/jewish-war-veterans-9th-circuit-suit.html' title='Jewish War Veterans 9th circuit suit, decision January 2011'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-6528686993849281938</id><published>2009-12-30T17:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-04T15:12:37.836-08:00</updated><title type='text'>History Of Soledad Cross Controversy</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FACTUAL BACKGROUND&lt;br /&gt;Description and History of the Mt. Soledad Latin Cross&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Note: This essay has been condensed making use of material from this ACLU court &lt;a href="http://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/religion/mtsoledadcomplaint20060824.pdf"&gt;document&lt;/a&gt; which contains further details and citations to relevant cases referenced here. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Mt. Soledad Latin Cross, a structure measuring 43 feet in height with a 12-foot arm spread, is located on now-federal property at the top of Mt. Soledad in San Diego, California.&amp;nbsp; The City of San Diego&amp;nbsp; first took possession of Mt. Soledad in the nineteenth century.&amp;nbsp;  In 1916, the San Diego City Council dedicated the property on which the Latin cross rests, as well as 170 adjoining acres of property, as the Mt. Soledad Nature Park.  Between 1913 and 1934, several crosses were erected atop Mt. Soledad.&amp;nbsp; The area was undeveloped,&amp;nbsp; close to being wilderness, so details are not clear of these events. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1952, the City Council authorized a private entity, the &lt;b&gt;Mt. Soledad Memorial Association (“MSMA”)&lt;/b&gt;, to erect and maintain a sizable Latin cross on top of Mt. Soledad where the previous, now gone, crosses were . The MSMA constructed the Cross, consisting of reinforced concrete&amp;nbsp; between 1952 and 1954.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On April 18, 1954, the MSMA dedicated the Latin cross during a Christian religious ceremony held on Easter Sunday. During that ceremony, the Latin cross was explicitly dedicated to “Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” in an MSMA dedication bulletin.&amp;nbsp; Since the Latin cross’s initial dedication in 1954, the City of San Diego has granted the MSMA a permit each year to conduct a sunrise service on Easter morning for Christians to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1989, a private individual, an Viet Nam combat vereran, and self described atheist, Philip K. Paulson, sued the City in this Court over the Latin cross’s presence on top of Mt. Soledad, based on the “No Preference” Clause of the California Constitution,&amp;nbsp; and the first amendment Establishment Clause of the United States Constitution.&amp;nbsp; The Federal District Court found that “[w]here . . . the Latin cross appears as a permanent, salient symbol on public property and on a public imprimatur, California’s constitution will not permit it to continue to stand." and gave the City three months to remove the cross. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On appeal, the Ninth Circuit upheld the district court’s determination and concluded that, even assuming the Mt. Soledad Latin cross could properly be characterized as war memorial, it is “a sectarian war memorial that carries an inherently religious message and creates an appearance of honoring only those servicemen of that particular religion.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In October 1994, following this Court’s decision and the Ninth Circuit’s affirmation of that decision, the City made its first attempt to remedy the constitutional violation via a ballot initiative in which it urged voters to “SAVE THE CROSS ON MOUNT SOLEDAD,”  by authorizing a no-bid sale of a 222-square foot parcel of land under the Latin cross to the MSMA.&amp;nbsp; (Proposition F of 1995)&amp;nbsp; This Court (Federal district court) subsequently declared the sale invalid under the No Preference Clause of the California Constitution,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Following this decision, the Association MSMA, sold the 222 square foot parcel back to the City.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The City did not give up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After this decision, the City published a notice soliciting bids on about a half-acre of land in Mt. Soledad Park, and expressly stated that the sale of the parcel was “for the purpose of maintaining a historic war memorial.” To this end, the City established a bidding process that required applicants to explain their plans for “maint[aining] a historic war memorial on the site.” Subsequently, the City announced that it accepted the MSMA’s bid as the winning bid. The Ninth Circuit, sitting en banc, invalidated this sale as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Court further implored the parties to “settle this case! It’s time to move the cross from public land to private land and comply with the laws of our great country instead of trying to find sneaky ways to get around them to pander to a certain group or to satisfy an out-of-state group’s religious agenda.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The parties engaged in extensive settlement discussions over the course of several weeks and agreed to settle the case by moving the Latin cross 1,000 yards to a nearby church. Under the terms of the settlement, the MSMA would be allowed to maintain an interest in the Mt. Soledad property and war memorial, and the Latin cross would be replaced with a nonsectarian symbol that would appropriately recognize all veterans in exchange for an end to litigation.  The settlement terms were presented to the City Council on July 20 and 27, 2004. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But instead of accepting the settlement outright, the Council attempted one last sale to the highest bidder, who alone could decide whether to keep, remove, or replace the Latin cross. At the public meeting of the City Council, the Mayor and four of five Council members, who voted to put the proposition (known as Proposition K) on the ballot over strong MSMA and prominent veterans-group opposition, expressly stated that the reason for their vote was to allow the Latin cross to remain on Mt. Soledad.&amp;nbsp; One Councilmember even cited his membership in the “Jesus Christ fan club” as a reason for his vote. Id. at 27.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On November 2, 2004, a substantial majority of San Diego voters — over 250,000 in&lt;br /&gt;total — rejected Proposition K and directed the City Attorney to enter into the settlement agreement. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Overriding of the Settlement and the Intervention of (former) Congressman&lt;br /&gt;Randy “Duke” Cunningham to “Save the Cross”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Undeterred by the will of San Diego voters and this Court’s prior exhortation to&lt;br /&gt;settle the case consistently with constitutional requirements, the City refused to comply with the binding ordinance. Instead, with the active encouragement of the &lt;b&gt;Thomas More Law Center (“TMLC”)&lt;/b&gt;, an advocacy group whose stated mission is the “promotion of the religious freedoms of Christians” and the protection of “Christians and their beliefs in the public square,” the City began its ongoing campaign to circumvent its constitutional obligations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;34. After San Diego voters overwhelmingly rejected Proposition K, the TMLC sought to&lt;br /&gt;scuttle the binding settlement agreement and secure the intervention of the federal government— all to save the Latin cross as a religious symbol.&amp;nbsp; On November 10, 2004, the TMLC sent a letter to Representative Randy “Duke” Cunningham, a Congressman from San Diego and a member of the powerful House&lt;br /&gt;Appropriations Committee, to solicit his help in convincing the federal government to override the San Diego referendum and corresponding settlement agreement by declaring the Latin cross a national war memorial. In so doing, the TMLC made clear that the principal reason for taking such action was because “religion and morality are the foundation of our country” and the Mt. Soledad Latin cross was “one of the most visible symbols of [our Christian faith].”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acknowledging that there was “unfortunately” a local initiative whereby San Diego&lt;br /&gt;voters overwhelmingly agreed to resolve the matter by entering into a settlement agreement, the TMLC nonetheless asserted that “the culture war will continue to be fought on many fronts” no matter what. Accordingly, the TMLC asked Representative Cunningham to “save the Cross” and help “preserve this … religious landmark” by declaring it a national war memorial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Less than a month later, during the night of November 21, 2004, Representative Cunningham inserted an eleventh-hour rider into the voluminous $388 billion Fiscal Year 2005 Omnibus Appropriations Act (Pub. L. No. 108-447). The rider, which few had seen before Representative Cunningham inserted it into the appropriations bill, (1) designated the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial a national veterans memorial; (2) authorized the Department of the Interior to accept the donation of the Memorial from the City of San Diego; and (3) directed the National Park Service to enter into a memorandum of understanding with the MSMA for the maintenance and administration of the memorial. Pub. L. No. 108-447, § 116, 118 Stat. 3346, codified at 16 U.S.C. § 431 note (2004). Representative Cunningham acknowledged that he had not asked for a written legal opinion from an attorney on whether the bill would allow the Latin cross to remain at its current location, and that he was trying to “save the Cross” as a religious landmark. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The TMLC hailed Cunningham’s effort as “an act of God.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the exception of the TMLC, however, all parties to the long-running dispute&lt;br /&gt;acknowledged that Representative Cunningham’s proposed legislation would not solve the constitutional problem that the California state and federal courts had unanimously reaffirmed multiple times over the preceding 13 years. The press has reported that William Kellogg, Executive Director of the Mount Soledad Memorial Association, candidly acknowledged that he did not see how Cunningham’s legislation would solve the underlying constitutional impediments. Likewise, the press reported that the MSMA’s attorney, Charles Berwanger, said that officials of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs had advised him that such a move would run afoul of the First Amendment and had reaffirmed that opinion in the wake of Rep. Cunningham’s rider.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On December 8, 2004, President Bush signed the omnibus appropriation bill, with&lt;br /&gt;Representative Cunningham’s rider intact, into law. Soon thereafter, the TMLC and&lt;br /&gt;Representative Cunningham successfully pressed San Diego Mayor Dick Murphy to add the proposed federalization of the Latin cross by way of donation promptly to the City Council Agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prior to the City Council meeting, however, San Diego City Attorney Michael&lt;br /&gt;Aguirre issued a formal legal opinion that the federalization of the Latin cross by way of donation would be a violation of the California Constitution and fall far short of a remedy that would be deemed acceptable by the California state and federal courts. Mr. Aguirre’s opinion further observed that, “based on current case law, such a transaction would also violate the federal Constitution and . . . provide fodder for additional legal proceedings against the City.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On March 8, 2005, after a six-hour public hearing, the San Diego City Council voted against donating the Latin cross to the federal government based on the MSMA’s request, City Attorney Aguirre’s legal recommendation, and the recognition that the City had a binding obligation to enter into the MSMA settlement agreement once Proposition K failed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a subsequent letter to the editor of the San Diego Union-Tribune, MSMA President Bill Kellogg reiterated his “strong support” for the City Council’s decision to reject federalization of the Cross, saying he was “convinced it was the right decision for our community and for our veterans.” Mr. Kellogg stated&amp;nbsp; that the constitutional issue had already been litigated to the fullest extent possible,” that the Ninth Circuit’s decision .... in which the Ninth Circuit invalidated a nearly identical attempt arising out of a war memorial in the Mojave Desert Preserve, “was directly on point,” and that “only the patience of the courts has prevented the [original] order from being carried out.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To those who “supported the federalization of the park [who] say they don’t care about the cross itself; they care about ‘not caving in to a minority,’” Kellogg contrasted the MSMA’s deep commitment to “the cross and the walls” and its equal commitment “to ensuring that both remain standing in a public place where they can be enjoyed by all.” “Only by moving the cross to another location” pursuant to the original MSMA settlement agreement, Kellogg argued, could the Cross truly “be saved.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Right wing groups and local congressman launch major campaign &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soon after the City Council’s decision, the TMLC and others, spurred on by Rep. Cunningham and Mayor Murphy, spearheaded a petition and referendum drive under the aegis ofa TMLC-affiliated group called “San Diegans for the Mt. Soledad National War Memorial” to rescind the Council vote. This wide-ranging and well-financed effort included 75 paid signature gatherers, massive fundraising efforts, and a petition written by the TMLC that began with the proposition, “You Can Save Our Cross.” Press reports described sermons from the Latin cross site and other public and religious venues, including events at Qualcomm Stadium and Cox Arena on Easter Sunday, that urged civil disobedience to flout the original Court order and save&lt;br /&gt;the Latin cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At a May 17, 2005 meeting to consider the petition, two City Council members, while&lt;br /&gt;expressing misgivings about the mounting legal costs the City was incurring, agreed to switch their initial vote and to send the issue back to the voters. The Council accordingly voted 6-3 to allow a public referendum, Proposition A, on the Latin cross. The vote on Proposition A was scheduled to coincide with the July 26, 2005 special election the City Council’s vote was announced, Latin cross supporters sang “Onward Christian Soldiers” in the Council chamber.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Further Litigation Over the Latin cross&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A private individual then challenged the proposed referendum on donating the Latin&lt;br /&gt;cross to the federal government on the grounds that the donation would violate article I, section IV (the No Preference Clause) and article XVI, section V (the No Aid Clause) of the California Constitution. Soon after Proposition A passed, California Superior Court Judge Patricia Cowett issued a temporary restraining order preventing the donation and a tentative ruling that any such donation would be unconstitutional. Following Judge Cowett’s order, City Attorney Aguirre reportedly reiterated that Proposition A was “clearly unconstitutional.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The City of San Diego Joins forces with the Thomas More Legal Center, A Christian Domination Organization &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seeking to overcome its inability to continue to bankroll the Latin cross litigation —which to that point had been ongoing for 13 years — the City deputized the TMLC’s lead attorney, Charles LiMandri, as a special deputy city attorney who agreed to work for free.  On October 7, 2005, Judge Cowett issued a 35-page final decision striking down Proposition A as unconstitutional. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On May 4, 2006, this Federal District Court ordered the City of San Diego finally to remove the Latin cross within 90 days or be fined $5,000 a day.   In response to the Court’s order, San Diego City Attorney Aguirre once again recommended that city officials stop politicizing the issue and incurring unnecessary legal costs in a futile effort to save the Latin cross on appeal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MSMA President William Kellogg likewise reiterated that the private war memorial organization was prepared to move the Latin cross to nearby private property and replaced at the memorial with another fitting symbol for veterans of the Korean War: “We feel it’s very important that the cross be saved. The location of the cross is not the primary issue.” The City sought a stay of Judge Thompson’s order pending appeal. On June 21, 2006, the Ninth Circuit denied the stay request. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Single Supreme Court Justice, Anthony Kennedy, prevented constitutional resolution of this controversy, and legitimized further action by congress&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;July 7, 2006, Justice Kennedy, as the Circuit Justice for the Ninth Circuit, granted a stay to preserve the status quo pending the respective appeals of Judge Thompson’s and Judge Cowett’s decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Recent Federal Intervention&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the same time that Justice Kennedy was intervening, Mayor Sanders and certain organizations lobbied the President and Congress to help the evade the edict of the California Constitution by condemning and effectuating a taking of the Mt. Soledad Latin cross by the federal government. On May 10, 2006, Congressman Duncan Hunter, who assumed leadership on the Latin cross issue in Congress after Rep. Cunningham’s departure, asked the President to “use the authority found in 40 U.S.C. 3113 to begin immediate condemnation proceedings” concerning the Latin cross. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On June 27, 2006, Rep. Hunter introduced &lt;a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h5683:"&gt;H.R. 5683&lt;/a&gt;. Stating an intent to “effectuate the purpose” of Rep. Cunningham’s previous bill from 2004, H.R. 5683 declares that “there is hereby vested in the United States all right, title, and interest in and to, and the right to immediate possession of, the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial in San Diego, California.”&amp;nbsp; The bill states that upon acquisition of the memorial by the United States, “the Secretary of Defense shall manage the property and shall enter into a memorandum of understanding with the Mt. Soledad Memorial Association for the continued maintenance of the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial by the Association.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bill passed the House on July 19, 2006 by a vote of 349 to 74, with all nays being Democrats.  It was then submitted to the Senate the next day, with the Democratic side objecting to it being passed by unanimous consent. &amp;nbsp; Finally after speeches by Senator Jeff Sessions, and John McCain, castigating both the ACLU and the Ninth Circuit court of appeals, it was passed by unanimous concent on on August 1, 2006, to be signed into law five days later by President Bush.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This Unanimous Consent procedure means that not a single Democratic Senator, including then freshman Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, chose to take a public stand against this legislation.&amp;nbsp; The bill transfers absolute control of the monument to the Federal Government, specifically the Department of Defense, whose secretary serves at the pleasure of the President of the United States.   The Latin Cross, the object of this twenty year constitutional challenge is not mentioned in the legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The law is to protect a national memorial to American war veterans.&amp;nbsp; The Cross that towers above it not mentioned, so it remains at the discretion of the President. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;---------------&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-6528686993849281938?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/6528686993849281938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/history-of-soledad-cross-controversy.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/6528686993849281938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/6528686993849281938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/history-of-soledad-cross-controversy.html' title='History Of Soledad Cross Controversy'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-3605049567199004544</id><published>2009-12-24T21:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-24T21:51:28.932-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Overview of the history</title><content type='html'>This is from an &lt;a href="http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080415/news_1m15cross.html"&gt;article &lt;/a&gt;in the San Diego Union Tribune, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Overview&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Background: The Mount Soledad cross sits on land controlled by the federal government. However, opponents say the presence of the cross there violates the state constitution. Supporters contend the cross is part of a larger war memorial and there is no constitutional violation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's changing: The players in the long-running case are different. Defending the cross is the federal government, instead of the city of San Diego, which did so for years. The national Jewish War Veterans and the ACLU of San Diego are new plaintiffs who want the cross off federal property.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The future: U.S. District Court Judge Larry Burns will issue a ruling on whether the cross violates the law. Whatever the ruling, appeals are expected. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Judge Burns ruled against the plaintifs, so in December of 2009 the appeal was heard by a three person board of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This lead to my personally getting envolved, by contacting a local columnist, Logan Jenkins ,who wrote the article that follows&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-3605049567199004544?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/3605049567199004544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/overview-of-history.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/3605049567199004544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/3605049567199004544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/overview-of-history.html' title='Overview of the history'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-6068869952606020861</id><published>2009-12-21T17:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-21T17:00:19.410-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Logan Jenkins'/><title type='text'>Get a war memorial we don’t have to fight over</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/21/get-war-memorial-we-dont-have-fight-over/"&gt;San Diego Union Tribune&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;by Logan Jenkins, December 21, 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of all the possible responses to the 20-Year (and Counting) War over the fate of the Mount Soledad memorial cross, the most poignant, it seems to me, is the plea for a re-imagined monument on the federal land.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the romantic’s last gasp at reconciling polar opposites. The idealist’s squaring of the cross circle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just imagine:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lawsuits terminated. Peace declared in our time. The skyscraping cross shipped to the lawn of a nearby church. A modern monument cuts the festering Gordian knot that has formed around the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sam Dolnick, a World War II veteran and a self-described “humanistic Jew,” revived this utopian theme following a recent 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals hearing, which pitted lawyers for the ACLU and the 114-year-old Jewish War Veterans of the United States against the federal government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was the latest grind of the wheel as the La Jolla cross slouches toward Washington and its ultimate date with the Supreme Court.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The difficulty now is that although the fight is against the use of a specific religious symbol to represent all religions of those who died in service, no other symbol is suggested to replace the Christian cross,” Dolnick wrote in a letter to the editor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dolnick’s idea, which I had heard at least once before, is to remove the cross and put in its place an artistic replica of the battlefield memorial for a fallen soldier: an upright rifle with a helmet on top and boots on the bottom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Putting aside the obvious objection — how would the other military branches feel about an Army-centric memorial? — Dolnick’s notion is sweetly futile, a perfect mission for a Jewish Don Quixote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It has been my experience over 91 years that when something is objected to, if nothing is suggested to replace the objected item, nothing is ever accomplished,” the La Mesan wrote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, you can’t beat something with nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trouble with the 56-year-old cross is that it’s really, really something. In fact, it’s not just one thing. It’s two things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You could say that it’s both giant and windmill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a symbol, the Mount Soledad cross is, at its core, ambiguous. That’s its slippery genius. Even on sunny days, it’s shrouded by a perceptual fog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the one hand, it’s a religious symbol, arguably the most freighted in human history. It directly evokes Christ’s Passion. Believers see His suffering in the archetypal outline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s a visceral reason Easter sunrise services are held at Mount Soledad. (You know a giant rifle wouldn’t draw the devout to reflect upon the resurrection.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cross is, at the same time (and even in the same mind), a culturally comfortable symbol of death, a 29-foot sentry for a universal military cemetery within which are buried veterans of all — or no — faiths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the past 20 years, as combatants have squared off in a long succession of courtrooms, the cross’s connection to the death of veterans has been reinforced by commemorative plaques at its base.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The majority of San Diegans, I suspect, can live with the inherent ambiguity, the coexistence of the divine and the secular, the manifest constitutional violation (an exclusive religious symbol on public land) and the manifest cultural amelioration (a familiar historical emblem that honors the war dead of any or no religion).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other day, I heard from Al Rodbell, a Carlsbad writer who suggested that my crass view of the cross — I told him that, at this point, I really didn’t care what happens to it — was colored by the fact that I had been sheltered from the “virus” of anti-Semitism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rodbell began a follow-up letter to me with a shocking string of profanities hurled at Jews for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were Jewish, if fate had not knit me as a blue-eyed born into a Presbyterian family, I would feel differently about the Christian cross on federal land, he suggested.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My experience with religious and ethnic prejudice in America has been largely vicarious. To comprehend bigotry, I’ve had to read books, watch movies, marry into a Jewish family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, the cruel irony of a Christian cross looking down on a town that, when the cross was built and afterward, strongly discouraged Jews from living there is not lost on me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Say or think what you will about the Mount Soledad cross it’s not modern in concept. It’s not cool.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In urging a crusade for a replacement of the Mount Soledad cross, Rodbell asked me to imagine “a soaring work of art, abstract enough to represent the force of religion, the toll of war and the aspiration for peace. It would be a small example to the city, the country and perhaps even the world that there are ways to transcend the limits of a given political system. … The hardpan of congealed conflict has to be plowed, which will take many passes; and then perhaps, just perhaps, a symbol the entire city could be proud of could grace the highest point of ‘America’s Finest City.’ ”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Support the Evolution of the Soledad Cross. Peace on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Christmas message, a gift borne by two Jewish wise men, it has a certain ring to it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-6068869952606020861?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/6068869952606020861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/get-war-memorial-we-dont-have-to-fight.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/6068869952606020861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/6068869952606020861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/get-war-memorial-we-dont-have-to-fight.html' title='Get a war memorial we don’t have to fight over'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-4844060835382908337</id><published>2009-12-15T12:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-28T22:45:53.353-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Logan Jenkins'/><title type='text'>Uncensored (but edited) Letter to Logan Jenkins referenced in his column</title><content type='html'>A&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/21/get-war-memorial-we-dont-have-fight-over/"&gt;column &lt;/a&gt;was sparked by this letter,&amp;nbsp; which he excerpted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Logan Jenkins,&lt;br /&gt;Columnist, San Diego Union Tribune&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Logan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"You God Damn Fucking Jew Bastard"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You've never had these words shouted at you.  But your wife's father probably did, and if history is any guide, the virus that elicits it, with words foreshadowing deeds, is still extant in the nether regions of this country. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;I describe the opportunity he has to reach readers on this issue&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I happened to have gotten to know Phil Paulson fairly well the last year of his life.  Since for years before that he refused any public appearances, deferring to his legal team, our hours of conversations provided me with an understanding of his motivations to challenge the Cross that are unknown to most.   With him gone, with the decision of the national Jewish War Veterans to take up this issue, it will be interpreted by those whose only response to any issue is a jerk of the knee, to depict this in the most ancient of tribalisms, Christians against Jews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;........There is a need to transcend the mechanisms of our political system, a Judiciary and legislative both being binary- "The Cross, Remain or Remove."  Transcending this is not to be achieved by a one shot newspaper article, column or OpEd.  It will take a concerted campaign.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I spoke to Sam Dolnick, a 91 year old Jewish Veteran&amp;nbsp; whose UT letter Sunday contained the seed of a resolution.   But it would require a level of skill and commitment that I'm not sure is available.   It would require convincing those who are currently in control of the "Federal District of Soledad Cross" that eternal conflict is not the truest symbol of the spirit that the Cross represents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Subsequently, I discovered that the local Veteran's Memorial Group had agreed to this proposal several years ago, but was overruled by the City Council and a referendum of voters. &amp;nbsp; The decision is now with the actual owners, and the plaintiffs in the current law suit, the U.S. Deptartment of Justice and the Secretary of Defense.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would require presenting an alternative, if not the rifle and helmet that Dolnick suggested, a soaring work of art, abstract enough to represent the force of religion, the toll of war and the aspiration for peace.  It would be a small example to the city, the country and perhaps even the world that there are ways to transcend the limits of a given political system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Politicians, both actual and wanabee,  love to foment fear and hatred.  Each era provides its own targets,  but in a pinch, Jews have always filled the need.   Is it even remotely in your, or anyone's, capacity to turn this around, to tap the better natures of those in the San Diego Region?  How wonderful it would be if this new monument  were to be not only a memorial representing those who died in war, but what they died for, which ultimately was the replacement of consuming hatred with a desire to achieve a world in peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The decision of the panel of the ninth circuit will not resolve anything, as that decision will be appealed to the full court, and then to the supreme court......with, in this case, right wing personages taking on the role of "defenders of the faith." to their political advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know the nature of the people of San Diego more than perhaps anyone.  You know the component groups, from those "who cling to their guns and religion" to those who dream the dreams of philosophers.  It could be that this is the world that we live in, destined to have the execration of hatred play itself out in all areas of political life, until, until, ........we may never know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps I have to do some more work, perhaps try to form a group, a foundation, starting with Sam Dolnick, and then explore whether the current overseers of the Cross are even open to such an idea before you take it up.  Sam planted the shovel, and the UT printed it prominently.  The hardpan of congealed conflict has to be plowed, which will take many passes; and then perhaps, just perhaps, a symbol the entire city could be proud of could grace the highest point of "America's Finest City."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regards&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Al Rodbell&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-4844060835382908337?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/4844060835382908337/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/letter-to-logan-jenkins-referenced-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/4844060835382908337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/4844060835382908337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/letter-to-logan-jenkins-referenced-in.html' title='Uncensored (but edited) Letter to Logan Jenkins referenced in his column'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-4238773733757692165</id><published>2009-12-13T10:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-24T12:48:55.779-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U.T. Campaign'/><title type='text'>San Diego Union Tribune (U.T)Editorials fostered toxic anger</title><content type='html'>One Jewish WWII combat vet, whom I described the article to, (Initials M B)talked about how he often visited the Soledad site.   And here's some hard data that can be verified.   He says that he feels uncomfortable there, as he has looked around the memorial plaques, and only saw a very few Jewish insignias.  He struggled to express himself, "that's not....representative of those who fought in the war"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually that's a bit of quantitative evidence of the effect of having a cross as the overarching symbol.  It could be useful to the plaintiffs, but that's not the avenue that interests me right now.  I want to try to win over the hearts of those who currently are stuck in a "Cross, No Cross" binary decision.....to transcend this, rather than have a legal victory that will lead to further animosity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This U.T. editorials (among many)before the referendum  was antagonistic to the point of fomenting hatred, and something I would guess a new, more enlightened Editorial Board may actually want to rectify. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My comments in italics&lt;br /&gt;--------------&lt;br /&gt;Mount Soledad memorial is worth saving&lt;br /&gt;July 18, 2005&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proposition A on the July 26 ballot boils down to a singular question: Do you want to keep the 29-foot cross and war memorial atop Mount Soledad? Or do you want the cross removed, as atheist Philip Paulson has been demanding in court for over 15 years?&lt;br /&gt;If you want to preserve the cross, erected over half a century ago at the end of the Korean War as a tribute to veterans, vote Yes on Proposition A. If you want the cross torn down, vote No.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not "cross removed" but the more violent connotation of "cross torn down"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as the ballot measure goes, it's as simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;As a legal matter, however, the issue is anything but simple.&lt;br /&gt;Proposition A asks voters whether they want to transfer the monument to the federal government, in accordance with a new federal law that designated the site a national memorial. The aim of Proposition A proponents is to sidestep a federal judge's ruling that the cross on public land violates the California constitution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be honest, though, there is no guarantee that shifting the property to federal hands would remedy the constitutional issue.  The best that can be said for Proposition A is that it might shift the long-running litigation costs of defending the cross from San Diego taxpayers to the federal government.  Certainly, passage of Proposition A will not bring an end to Paulson's determined drive to dismantle the cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The above paragraphs acknowledge the legitimacy of the breach of the constitution, and admits that the goal is to remove the expense from the city to the federal government.  Personification of evil, to "Atheist Phil Paulson" is a classic propaganda technique,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is very clear, however, is that if voters reject Proposition A, the cross will come down. The City Council already has attempted to end the court dispute by removing the cross. Only a referendum signed by tens of thousands of San Diego voters thwarted the move.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proposition A is probably the last chance to save the cross, even if it is not a sure bet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;based on antonym for "save"  the connotation is if this is not passed the cross will be "killed," something that happens to living things, so removing the cross is connected to the killing of he who the symbol represents.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We believe it is worth a try.&lt;br /&gt;Vote Yes on Proposition A.&lt;br /&gt;----------------------&lt;br /&gt;The tone was clearly to foment hatred towards Phil Paulson specifically, and Atheists in general.   If this tone, even as an echo of the previous battle,  is revived now,-- if it is not diffused by something different, we could have a resurgence of anti-semitism, something I have heard reports of  becoming more previlent.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-4238773733757692165?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/4238773733757692165/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/san-diego-union-tribune-uteditorials.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/4238773733757692165'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/4238773733757692165'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/san-diego-union-tribune-uteditorials.html' title='San Diego Union Tribune (U.T)Editorials fostered toxic anger'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7838432922355350095.post-5082700072592882281</id><published>2009-12-12T11:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-04T15:33:56.091-08:00</updated><title type='text'>References to documents and reports</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/religion/mtsoledadcomplaint20060824.pdf"&gt;Current Complaint&lt;/a&gt; by ACLU v. Dept. of Defense, with full history of this issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:4:./temp/%7Ec1091WCw2D::"&gt;Law&lt;/a&gt;, passed in July 2006,&amp;nbsp; that placed Memorial under the control of Department of Defense, with only maintenance by the SMMA. &amp;nbsp; Thus the continuation or removal of the cross is under the discretion of the Federal Executive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Union Tribune &lt;a href="http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/cunningham/20050710-352-pushtook.html"&gt;Article &lt;/a&gt;of June 10, 2005.  Describes the lineup of those who want to pass a referendum that would negate a previous one earlier in the year that instructed the City Council to relocate the cross to a nearby church.  Jim McCoy, lawyer for plaintiffs feel that it would be ruled unconstitutional so they did not fight this referendum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thomas More Legal Center &lt;a href="http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/SoledadAmicusBrief-4-1-09.pdf"&gt;Amicus Curae brief &lt;/a&gt;on 2006 case before ninth circuit &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WorldNetDaily &lt;a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=118498"&gt;article &lt;/a&gt;describing the 9th circuit appeal of the decision against the ACLU and the Jewish War Veterans:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joe Infranco is a lawyer with the &lt;a href="http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx"&gt;Alliance Defense Fund&lt;/a&gt;, a legal group that filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of the &lt;a href="http://www.calegion.org/"&gt;American Legion Department of California&lt;/a&gt;. He told WND that after 45 minutes of arguments in 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, it was difficult to tell which way the three-judge panel was leaning. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Joe Infranco, a lawyer with the &lt;a href="http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx"&gt;Alliance Defense Fund&lt;/a&gt;, said "If the Supreme Court does not take the case, and they take very few, then the appellate decision stands,"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Asked whether the cross must come down if the Department of Defense does not win its case, Infranco said, "That's an excellent question. I overheard veterans at the argument today talking about civil disobedience if they're ordered to dismantle the cross." He continued, "This excites a lot of emotion among the veterans. Veterans groups in the country are outraged by this lawsuit." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Union Tribune &lt;a href="http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080730/news_1m30cross.html"&gt;Article &lt;/a&gt;on District Court Decision supporting Federal Takeover of site, July 30,2008-Decision based on broader ruling by Federal Constitution than California's.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7838432922355350095-5082700072592882281?l=soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/feeds/5082700072592882281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/references-to-documents-and-reports.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/5082700072592882281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7838432922355350095/posts/default/5082700072592882281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://soledadwarmemorial.blogspot.com/2009/12/references-to-documents-and-reports.html' title='References to documents and reports'/><author><name>Al Rodbell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05993709026872288071</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3202/1355/200/Al%20Headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
